Comments on: The Real Reason I Won’t See Michael Moore’s Newest Movie http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/ Bob Burg's Official Website Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:00:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Erin Lieber http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1599 Erin Lieber Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:33:39 +0000 http://www.burg.com/?p=1318#comment-1599 Why should Hollywood ever have any political opinion I should care about? They are meant to entertain us if that's possible. Honestly, Hollywood is a disease. They worm their way into our lives through this cause and that cause which they claim to have any sort of knowledge on and infect us through the media (which is also tainted) due to their highly known faces. They make lots of money so they must have some idea what's going on in the world. They should stick to their bubble reality of fame and fortune, parties and large egos. Keep dumping money into your random charities and I will admit, some of them are worth something. But please, STAY OUT OF POLITICS!!!!! Quit buying the people who represent us. I am so sick of it. And Michael, if you're so against Capitalism, start handing over some of YOUR money and redistribute it to the people. Or you can always go to Cuba! You and your celebrity buddies seem to love it there so much, heck some in Congress praise dictators. Hitch a ride with them. Take the whole White House with you. I want my Country back. I want my husband's service to this Country to actually mean something. Because honestly, I don't know what he's fighting for. Capitalism is the heart of it. We aren't willing to give it up. So, take your Socialism somewhere else. But keep talking Michael!!!! Be the poster child for the President's Health Care Reform!!! Lookin' Good!!!! Why should Hollywood ever have any political opinion I should care about? They are meant to entertain us if that’s possible. Honestly, Hollywood is a disease. They worm their way into our lives through this cause and that cause which they claim to have any sort of knowledge on and infect us through the media (which is also tainted) due to their highly known faces. They make lots of money so they must have some idea what’s going on in the world. They should stick to their bubble reality of fame and fortune, parties and large egos. Keep dumping money into your random charities and I will admit, some of them are worth something. But please, STAY OUT OF POLITICS!!!!! Quit buying the people who represent us. I am so sick of it. And Michael, if you’re so against Capitalism, start handing over some of YOUR money and redistribute it to the people. Or you can always go to Cuba! You and your celebrity buddies seem to love it there so much, heck some in Congress praise dictators. Hitch a ride with them. Take the whole White House with you. I want my Country back. I want my husband’s service to this Country to actually mean something. Because honestly, I don’t know what he’s fighting for. Capitalism is the heart of it. We aren’t willing to give it up. So, take your Socialism somewhere else. But keep talking Michael!!!! Be the poster child for the President’s Health Care Reform!!! Lookin’ Good!!!!

]]> By: Bob Burg http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1597 Bob Burg Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:35:17 +0000 http://www.burg.com/?p=1318#comment-1597 Hi Nicky, Thank you for your question. Actually, I should have written it as you wrote it, without the caps. With the caps, it's still politics. Without the caps, it's simply a term that makes for a good explanation. A brief example of "trickle down" would be that someone buys a widget from a store. That sale not only keeps the company in business, but allows them to pay their employees. One of the employess, John, takes his paycheck and with part of that goes to the supermarket to buy food for his family. This not only keeps the supermarket in business but allows them to pay their employees. One of the supermarket employees, Sue, takes some of that money and goes to ______ to buy a _____. This not only keeps that.... and on it goes. It continues to trickle down and benefit more and more people. So, yes, we want major corporations to succeed and thrive (so long as they do it without buying the influence of the politicians for special favors, rules and regulations on their behalf). We want them to stay in business so they can pay their employees who can then go out and buy goods and services, etc. etc. This is what makes for a good, healthy economy and provides more jobs for all, and allows for even more charity for the needy. Make it difficult for big business to survive (and the same for medium and small businesses) and it hurts everyone. But they should not be able to manipulate the political system. They should profit through providing value to those who willingly enter into business transactions with them. Does that make sense? Hi Nicky,

Thank you for your question. Actually, I should have written it as you wrote it, without the caps. With the caps, it’s still politics. Without the caps, it’s simply a term that makes for a good explanation.

A brief example of “trickle down” would be that someone buys a widget from a store. That sale not only keeps the company in business, but allows them to pay their employees. One of the employess, John, takes his paycheck and with part of that goes to the supermarket to buy food for his family. This not only keeps the supermarket in business but allows them to pay their employees. One of the supermarket employees, Sue, takes some of that money and goes to ______ to buy a _____. This not only keeps that…. and on it goes. It continues to trickle down and benefit more and more people.

So, yes, we want major corporations to succeed and thrive (so long as they do it without buying the influence of the politicians for special favors, rules and regulations on their behalf). We want them to stay in business so they can pay their employees who can then go out and buy goods and services, etc. etc. This is what makes for a good, healthy economy and provides more jobs for all, and allows for even more charity for the needy.

Make it difficult for big business to survive (and the same for medium and small businesses) and it hurts everyone.

But they should not be able to manipulate the political system. They should profit through providing value to those who willingly enter into business transactions with them.

Does that make sense?

]]> By: Nicky http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1596 Nicky Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:14:41 +0000 http://www.burg.com/?p=1318#comment-1596 Bob, I've enjoyed reading through the comments here so far, lots of interesting thoughts. You mentioned trickle down economics a few posts above; if you get a chance, I would appreciate if you could post a few links to examples of trickle down economics in action. I'll have to research it a bit on my own at some point, as well. It is a phrase used so frequently and yet I can't recall ever hearing anyone specifically define it, how it functions, examples of it in practice, etc. I'm sure this info is available in textbooks and various places on the Web, but for such a common term I get the feeling many people (myself included) have a very amorphous grasp of it. Thanks! Nicky Bob,

I’ve enjoyed reading through the comments here so far, lots of interesting thoughts.

You mentioned trickle down economics a few posts above; if you get a chance, I would appreciate if you could post a few links to examples of trickle down economics in action. I’ll have to research it a bit on my own at some point, as well.

It is a phrase used so frequently and yet I can’t recall ever hearing anyone specifically define it, how it functions, examples of it in practice, etc. I’m sure this info is available in textbooks and various places on the Web, but for such a common term I get the feeling many people (myself included) have a very amorphous grasp of it.

Thanks!
Nicky

]]> By: Bob Burg http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1595 Bob Burg Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:55:22 +0000 http://www.burg.com/?p=1318#comment-1595 Hi Stephanie, I agree with everything y9u wrote. Bob (from Hawaii), regarding my being blind as to what you believe is a conspiracy, of course; you could be right; I could be blind about it, and I might just be naive. I just don't happen to believe it's a conspiracy. Conspiracies take too many people acting together...and being able to keep quiet about it. Again, though; I could be naive. I do agree with you that Hollywood does an amazng job of spreading their views while others don't. Then again, by their very nature, they have good reach, and a lot of people who desire to believe them. Such is life. So, it's up to us to do our best to effectively communicate our messages in a persuasive way. I'm not sure what you mean when you say - and I assume you're taling to me when you say, "No, you're right, I am an idiot and there is no conspiracy." I certainly did not call you an idiot. As far as I know, we've never even met. And, I don't use that kind of language anyway. I appreciate your expressing your views and understand that we can disagree about certain things without anyone having to be an idiot, insane or anything else. Hi Stephanie, I agree with everything y9u wrote.

Bob (from Hawaii), regarding my being blind as to what you believe is a conspiracy, of course; you could be right; I could be blind about it, and I might just be naive. I just don’t happen to believe it’s a conspiracy. Conspiracies take too many people acting together…and being able to keep quiet about it. Again, though; I could be naive.

I do agree with you that Hollywood does an amazng job of spreading their views while others don’t. Then again, by their very nature, they have good reach, and a lot of people who desire to believe them. Such is life. So, it’s up to us to do our best to effectively communicate our messages in a persuasive way.

I’m not sure what you mean when you say – and I assume you’re taling to me when you say, “No, you’re right, I am an idiot and there is no conspiracy.” I certainly did not call you an idiot. As far as I know, we’ve never even met. And, I don’t use that kind of language anyway. I appreciate your expressing your views and understand that we can disagree about certain things without anyone having to be an idiot, insane or anything else.

]]> By: Bob http://www.burg.com/2009/10/the-real-reason-i-won%e2%80%99t-see-michael-moore%e2%80%99s-newest-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-1592 Bob Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:58:40 +0000 http://www.burg.com/?p=1318#comment-1592 Aloha Bob, Forgive me my insolence but your well meaning article just don't cut it. I appreciate more than you know your ability to recognize the problem. But it is my humble opinion you and so many Americans like you miss the point of your own article. Now I will apologize again in advance out of politeness; but you like Ann Coultor and Micelle Malkin can be wickedly insightful and yet blind as the perverbial bat. First to announce that you beleive that their is no conspiracy behind all of this is naive at best and I'll let you finish that statement. The mere fact that you understand Michael Moores premise prior to viewing his movie is an hour long conversation of why you should recognize a conspiracy. But even that isn't my main concern. My main concern is how Hollywood, a bunch of "chuckleheads" (I should know I was in that business for 15 years) realizes how to sway a country and you do not. Maybe for the one millioneth time; everyone, the media is the problem. Your highly insightful and intellectual discussion here...is HERE! While Michael Moores biased and totally distorted but Hollywood backed propaganda will be on big screens all over the country. No you're right I am an idiot and there is no conspiracy. I leave this in your court, because obviously my 12 years of ranting about this must mean I am insane. Aloha Bob,
Forgive me my insolence but your well meaning article just don’t cut it. I appreciate more than you know your ability to recognize the problem. But it is my humble opinion you and so many Americans like you miss the point of your own article. Now I will apologize again in advance out of politeness; but you like Ann Coultor and Micelle Malkin can be wickedly insightful and yet blind as the perverbial bat. First to announce that you beleive that their is no conspiracy behind all of this is naive at best and I’ll let you finish that statement. The mere fact that you understand Michael Moores premise prior to viewing his movie is an hour long conversation of why you should recognize a conspiracy. But even that isn’t my main concern. My main concern is how Hollywood, a bunch of “chuckleheads” (I should know I was in that business for 15 years) realizes how to sway a country and you do not. Maybe for the one millioneth time; everyone, the media is the problem. Your highly insightful and intellectual discussion here…is HERE! While Michael Moores biased and totally distorted but Hollywood backed propaganda will be on big screens all over the country. No you’re right I am an idiot and there is no conspiracy. I leave this in your court, because obviously my 12 years of ranting about this must mean I am insane.

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